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Info-Mac Digest             Tue,  4 May 93       Volume 11 : Issue 94

Today's Topics:

      [*] ComIT 1.7.1.sea.hqx (for Co
      [*] comm - MacTCP Watcher v1.0.0
      [*] lists xfcn's 1.1 update
      [*] Quadra 700 Clock Mod Report v1.2
      [*] Submission - New Maelstrom Sounds
      [*] submission: Kermit Tool GH 1.3
      [*] teachtext.xtnd.sit.hqx
      2 Questions - PICS to MooV & Environmental Res CDs
      Boomerang and SuperBoomerang (C)
      Celestial Navigation Software Found
      Connecting a Macintosh to a Novell Fileserver? - Printing Problems?
      Desktop Manager (2 msgs)
      DoubleScroll CP with MSWord 5.1
      EtherNetlet
      Fonts needed
      Fortran "automatic" backgrounding capability (R)
      FTP woes (R)
      FTP woes: mac.archive.umich.edu and Old wuarchive.wustl.edu (2 msgs)
      Higher resolution on a NEC 3FGx (A)
      How to mount/unmount partitions over the net ? (Q)
      Hypercard and Picture XCMD
      Idea for System 7.2 - undo in the desktop (C)
      Mac Layers and AIX.
      Mac LC III (Q)
      MacTCP Gateway not in local zone
      MacWrite Pro vs. ClarisWorks 2.0 -- ????
      More than one dictionary (Word 5.0a)
      Nautlius CD Magazine - any subscribers out there?
      New PP Modem
      NeXT application dock
      NOW Menus and Word 4.01b conflict
      Number of Chips on a SIMM
      PICT <--> PCX
      PopChar/MacWrite Pro Glitch?
      PRAM Zapping
      Qestion about acessing data in handles with THINK C (A)
      Recommendations for Shareware Polar Plotting
      SCSI Problem Resolved In Draconian Fashion
      Strip Address
      Trackballs
      Undo for 7.2
      Uploading Archives (Q)
      Wiz Tools (Q)
      World Map needed...

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Date: 3 May 1993 12:21:39 -0800
From: "ML Weasner" <ML_Weasner@qmail4.nba.trw.com>
Subject: [*] ComIT 1.7.1.sea.hqx (for Co

Here is ComIT 1.7.1, a Communication Integration Tool for Apple Macintosh
computers. With ComIT you can monitor communication costs for on-line connect
time and voice phone calls. You can use ComIT to dial your voice calls and
monitor the duration and cost of the call.

ComIT supports Macintosh Plus and newer computers with at least 1MB of
memory.
ComIT is compatible with multiple monitors and large screen monitors.  ComIT
requires System 6.0 or later. ComIT 1.7.1 is System 7 friendly, including
Balloon Help, and it is 32-bit clean. It is also A/UX 3.0 compatible but has
not been fully tested under A/UX.

ComIT is a shareware program. If you like and use ComIT, please send your name
and mailing address to the author along with the $20.00 (U.S.) shareware fee.
Registered users of ComIT will receive a printed manual, support via online
services, and future updates free or at reduced cost. There are many
capabilities in ComIT that are documented in the manual. In fairness to those
who register, unregistered users will not receive any support.

There have been several enhancements made in ComIT 1.7.1. Complete
descriptions
of the changes are included in the manual addendums provided to registered
users.  ComIT 1.7.1 is the first bug-fix only version; after the release of
1.7, a 32bit memory mode error surfaced in the code used to communicate with a
modem.  This has been corrected in 1.7.1.

Distribution of the original, unmodified ComIT 1.7.1 software by users is
encouraged as long as the Read Me file included with the "distribution
version"
of ComIT 1.7.1 is included unmodified and no payment (other than for online
connect costs or for distribution media) is accepted for the actual software
or
documentation.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/com-it-171.hqx; 204K]

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 13:47:43 +0800
From: Peter N Lewis <peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au>
Subject: [*] comm - MacTCP Watcher v1.0.0

Peter N Lewis <peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au>             Ph: +61 9 368 2055
MacTCP Watcher v1.0.0 displays the internal data of MacTCP.  It shows
this Mac's IP, DNS name, and all the internal information that MacTCP
provides (much of which I don't understand, so please don't ask me
what it means!).  It will also list all the currently open TCP connections,
and the information on each of them.  As well, it allows you to test
MacTCP and your network, using the ICMP Ping protocol, the UDP & TCP
Echo protocols (you'll need a machine that supports the echo protocol,
most unix machines do, and I've implemented them in MacTCP Watcher,
so you can run the program on two Macs and test the network between
them as well as the MacTCP configuration on each of them), and it
tests out the DNS by looking up the name of a given IP or IP of a given
name.  It should be useful to people having MacTCP configuration troubles,
network or Domain Name System problems, or the cronically curious.

MacTCP Watcher is free, and comes with a free copy of Eric Behr's
MacTCP Info document (thanks Eric!), so if you have MacTCP problems,
check it out.

I will be in the USA from May 6 til June 12, so if you send me any Email,
expect a noticable delay in my responding.  Also, I'm releasing this now
even though it could do with some more testing, because otherwise it
would be delayed a couple months.  If there are any problems with it,
let me know but don't expect a new version for at least a couple months.

Have fun,
   Peter. <peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au>

MacTCP Watcher v1.0.0 Copyright 1993 Peter N Lewis

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/mactcp-watcher-10.hqx; 83K]

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Date: Mon, 3 May 1993 13:24 EST
From: Doug Ward <DWARD%UTOROISE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: [*] lists xfcn's 1.1 update

Lists XFCN's package 1.1

This is version 1.1 of the Lists XFCN's stack which includes
version 1.1 of most of the XFCN's. The revisions have fixed some
minor annoying bugs and one major bug in the sortList XFCN. Sorry
for any inconveniences.

This stack should replace the previous version (1.0) in the
archives

This package of XFCN's was written to provide a simple and
versatile programming interface for manipulating complex lists of
text strings in HyperCard. List lines can contain multiple items,
and both lines and items can be delimited by any single character
(not just returns and commas). I have included functions for
building, sorting, editing, searching, and combining lists. The
package is shareware.

Doug Ward

dward@oise1.oise.on.ca

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/lists-11.hqx; 49K]

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Date: Sun, 2 May 1993 17:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>
Subject: [*] Quadra 700 Clock Mod Report v1.2

Update of Quadra 700 to 33.3 mhz acceleration report and instructions.
Clarifies explanation and adds important caveat regarding use of socket pin=
s.

This document details a modification of the Quadra 700 for higher
speed. This procedure should only be attempted by users who are experi-
enced in circuit board fabrication and repair. You must desolder a
component on a multi-layer motherboard. Such boards are fragile and
difficult to repair. If you destroy your motherboard, others will
remind you how foolish you were. This process voids your warranty.
If you are not dissuaded by the above, read on and see how a $5.00
part may bring your Quadra 700 up to Quadra 950 performance.

[Archived as /info-mac/tech/quadra-700-clock-mod-12.txt; 15K]

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Date: Mon, 3 May 93 11:21:26 -0700
From: martin@playfair.stanford.edu (Michael Martin)
Subject: [*] Submission - New Maelstrom Sounds

Dear Moderator:

Attached is a stuffit-compressed, binhexed archive of some new sounds
for the game maelstrom. I was bored this weekend, so I started playing
with ResEdit and the maelstrom sound file and came up with the attached
sound file. The sounds were downloaded from sumex-aim and other mac
sites. A couple of the sounds are the same as the original sound file
(because I couldn't find ones I liked better)
The sound file is a fair bit bigger than the original sound
file, so to use it, you'll need to increase maelstrom's memory size to
about 3000 K (it's currently 2100). Just rename your old sound file and
put the new sound file (named Maelstrom Sounds) in your maelstrom
folder. Then play, and enjoy.

Michael Martin, Department of Statistics, Stanford University.
e-mail: martin@playfair.stanford.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/game/maelstrom-martin-sounds.hqx; 833K]

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Date: Mon, 3 May 93 22:29 CST
From: HOWES@bert.chem.wisc.edu
Subject: [*] submission: Kermit Tool GH 1.3

Dear Info-Mac,
 Enclose you will find version 1.3 of my Kermit tool for the
communications toolbox. When combined with a compliant app,
such as Termy or ClarisWorks (or any of the Works programs),
allows the user to use the Kermit file transfer protocol
common among university mainframes.

This version is basically an enhancement from the previous
release with quite a few tweaks and featurelets.

I suggest it be stored as
info-mac/comm/kermit_tool_gh_13_sit.hqx

-- glenn howes // howes@bert.chem.wisc.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/kermit-tool-gh-13.hqx; 58K]

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Date: Tue, 04 May 93 02:02:03 EDT
From: alancutah@aol.com
Subject: [*] teachtext.xtnd.sit.hqx

TeachText XTND Translator 1.0
Copyright 1993 by Alan Coopersmith

The enclosed file (after uncompressing from Stuffit 3 format)
contains a translator that allows XTND-savvy apps such as
MacWrite II/Pro to read and write TeachText docs with text and
graphics.  Docs are included in TeachText format.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/xtnd-teachtext.hqx; 18K]

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 05:15:25 -0400
From: mcs2@cornell.edu (Wagner Truppel)
Subject: 2 Questions - PICS to MooV & Environmental Res CDs

Friends of the netland,

does anyone know of a program to convert animations saved as PICS files to
QuickTime movies (MooV format)? I know of MovieMaker, but it only converts
a collection of PICT files to QuickTime. So, to make use of it, I'd have
first to create as many PICT files as there are frames in each PICS file.
This is an enormous headache most of the time, considering that I create
animations using Mathematica and Theorist that often have hundreds of
frames each. Would, perhaps, the author of MovieMaker be reading this and
be inclined to add this feature to a new version?

On another subject, my wife is interested in applications and CDs with good
quality pictures, photographs, clip-art, and the like, relating to
environmental issues, to build a small resource library for courses in
environmental conservation and policy. Does anyone have suggestions? We've
seen ads for EarthQuest (a HyperCard stack) and Down To Earth (a CD), but
know very little about them. Are they any good? Worth purchasing?

Please reply directly to me and I'll sumarize if enough people show interest.
Thanks in advance for any and all responses.

Wagner Truppel
mcs2@cornell.edu

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Date: Tue, 4 May 93 12:34:37 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: Boomerang and SuperBoomerang (C)

>Regarding several recent postings about Boomerang and SuperBoomerang, I
>also have been unable to get Boomerang 2.02 to work with System 7.1 on my
>Mac IIci. I tried it under System 6.0.7 and it worked fine. Several netters
>suggested using Default Folder as an alternative, but I found that one of
>my favorite features of Boomerang is not duplicated. Under Boomerang, when
>you open a file from a long list of files, then return to open another one,
>the open file dialog returns to the last file opened rather than to the top
>of the list. This is really useful for example when analyzing a large
>number of data files sequentially, especially when they have similar names.
>Anyone know of an alternative for this function, or whether SuperBoomerang
>has this feature? I actually would be happy with just this one feature of
>Boomerang! (Hint to hackers...)

Me too! I really don't want to install SuperBoomerang or Directory
Assistance II because they have far more features than I need and take up
too much memory. A simple (and rock-solid reliable) init to remember the
position in a file dialog would suit me fine. If somebody writes it, I'll
buy it (but I wouldn't complain if it's free).

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 09:23 EST
From: WALLACE FELDMAN <FELDMANW@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu>
Subject: Celestial Navigation Software Found

Date sent:  4-MAY-1993 09:14:45

On April 22 I posted a plea for Mac-based celestial navigation and marine
piloting software. By subscribing to the Yacht-L list (from
Listserv@GREARN.BITNET if anyone's interested) I made contact with someone
>From U. Kansas who has written a set of hypercard programs which do
just about anything anyone could want along these lines. He is:

Steven Tripp
C152@UKANVAX.BITNET     or   C152@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU

This is commercial ware, but the prices seem reasonable to me. He'll
send you a demo disc for $5. There are several versions, depending on how
many features you want.

Hope some folks find this useful.


Wally

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Date: Tue, 4 May 93 14:05:29 BST
From: A.D'Emanuele@manchester-computing-centre.ac.uk
Subject: Connecting a Macintosh to a Novell Fileserver? - Printing Problems?

I recently managed to connect my Mac IIci to our Departmental Novell
fileserver, using ethernet and the latest version of NetWare for Macintosh.
Whilst I can use the server without any problems I can not access the
laserprinter (HPIII, not postscript) on the server. We are having problems
configuring the server. Our network person has little experience with
Macintosh and I am looking for some advice? Anyone out there with any
experience with Novell and Macs?

		Regards, Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester
					  A.D'Emanuele@mcc.ac.uk

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Date: Tue, 04 May 93 13:26:28 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Desktop Manager

On Sun, 02 May, Dong-Young Lee asked where to find the Desktop Manager
extension which avoids rebuilding the desktop files when switching
between System 6 and System 7.

It is in the ftp site "ftp.apple.com" as dts/mac/hacks/oscar.hqx, 324K.
No, I don't know why it is hiding in Oscar.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 14:54:07 -0500
From: vilberg@whale.st.usm.edu (Bill Vilberg)
Subject: Desktop Manager

The Desktop Manager INIT came with AppleShare in the System 6.0 days. It is
not, to my knowledge, available on-line anywhere.

* Bill Vilberg, Univ. of So. Miss.  <vilberg@whale.st.usm.edu>

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 13:12:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: bms@pyramid.com (Bruce Schlobohm)
Subject: DoubleScroll CP with MSWord 5.1

In V11 #91 nem52463@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu  writes:

> I just downloaded the great DoubleScroll control panel from the
> archives, and noticed the following stange behavior:
>
> 1)  Most annoying of all, it makes the sliders INVISIBLE in MS Word
> 5.1; they still work if you "guestimate" where the arrowheads are,
> but this is truly an undesireable situation...
>  ...
> Anyone else have these problems, or is it just me?
>
> Until the MS Word problem gets fixed, I'm going to have to stop using
> the program.  The second is just a minor annoyance, but I'd like to
> see it fixed, too.  Any hope for an update soon?...

No, it's not just you.

I too had problems with DoubleScroll and MS Word 5.1a.  I noticed that in
page layout mode the scroll bar slider position was not close to where
it should be.

I also had problems with DoubleScroll and Quicken.  Quicken does its
own thing when you drag the slider, to display the date position in
the checkbook.

Mail from the author indicated that he was looking into it.  I eventually
found that I had to disable DS for my most used apps, and therefore
stopped using it.

--
bruce schlobohm
bms@pyramid.com

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Date: Tue, 04 May 93 19:04:26 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: EtherNetlet

Y'all were so helpful with advice about the Bloom family ethernetlet, I
thought I'd let you know what happened. And to beg some more info.

I was out with a flu bug half of last week, reading everything in sight
to stave off boredom, and in came a catalog from Focus Technologies, all
about networks and such. Lots of informative text. Good prices. And they
sell cards and cables and everything. Well almost everything. I had a few
questions after devouring the catalog (It had half conviced me to go with
ThinNet instead of 10baseT), and I dropped them a note (The catalog had
an internet address even). One Peter Cohen came back fast with answers,
and I started feeling warm and fuzzy toward Focus. I threw caution to the
winds and ordered a ThinNet system from them. The order person was even
knowledgeable. Hmmm. Warmer and fuzzier. Especially since their cards are
like $100 each, 2/3 the best price I'd seen elsewhere.

Focus claims Sonic's LaserBridge is better than any hardware solution for
hooking up the two localtalk printers to the netlet, and that's all they
sell. I don't think so. MacUser tests showed hardware maybe 25% faster,
and it doesn't require a host Mac. So I ordered that part separately.

Everything came together yesterday, and I hooked up the netlet. And folk
wonder why I drink. The hardware was no problem. Then I used the Focus
install disk to put in the card driver. That installer sucks toads. It
offered to install AppleTalk 58 in addition to the card driver. I already
had AT58 installed. OK, pick custom and just ask for the driver. It still
wanted to install AT58. Worse, the install disk ejected itself, and the
installer asked for the Network Installer Disk. What naughtywording
network installer disk? It didn't answer me, and I spoke into the mouse
quite distinctly. After much gnashing of teeth and various other useless
things, I just slammed the install disk back in the drive. That's all it
took. Snarl, snarl. Peter dropped me a note today thanking me for my
order and offering to help with any install problems. I suggested that
Focus re-examine its install script.

That was the small stuff. Larger was the Dayna EtherPrint box that Mac
Connection had sent. I'd called MacWareHouse first, asking for the V2.0
EtherPrint, and was told that the product was not available. So I called
my other usual mail order suspect. I asked for EtherPrint 2.0. The order
taker said they have better than that -- 2.1! Right. I shoulda hung up.
In came something that didn't look at all like the 2.0 box in Dayna's ads
and with a manual that didn't sound like 2.0 at all. One localtalk device
and turn on that device before powering up the box. Yup. The original
recipe EtherPrint, not the hot and crispy I asked for. Call MacConn. Huh?
We don't have a problem, sir. You have a problem. We'll take it back, but
you pay shipping. Snarl, snarl.

I called Dayna this morning. Seems there has been a slight delay in
actually shipping the EtherPrint 2.0 box they've been advertising for
over a month. Like maybe look for it next month. It's not MacConn's
fault. It's our fault. No, we won't reimburse you for shipping the thing
back to MacConn. Dayna's idea of accepting full responsibility reminds
me of the Bush administration.

OK, I had a fallback. I went into the office and borrowed a copy of Sonic
LaserBridge. Not a permanent solution. First off, I don't care to need my
Mac powered up when Leslye wants to print something. That could lead to
divorce at best. Second, I don't like to thieve.

To the question that I promised: Is there another product similar to the
Dayna EtherPrint 2.0 that is shipping? By similar, I mean (1) it'll do
two localtak printers (2) it doesn't care about power-up order, and
(3) it costs around $300. AsantePrint seems a possibility, but I haven't
seen enough about its features.

All help much appreciated.


Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

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Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 09:04 EDT
From: Alex Leary <LEARYJ%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Fonts needed

Date sent:  4-MAY-1993 09:02:53
Does anyone know where I can acess the following tt fonts? Limousine
and Jellybean? I saw them bundled w/200 other fonts and only want
these two so why buy the rest?
learyjsnycorva
---also is there a ip for the underground font archive?

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Date: 4 May 1993 15:36:14 GMT
From: kestral@ugcs.caltech.edu (Joseph P. Andrieu)
Subject: Fortran "automatic" backgrounding capability (R)

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Recently, I posted (in part) this message:

>>>BOTH Language System Fortran and Absoft Fortran compilers allow
>>>you to have the required "token passing" subroutine calls inserted
>>>*automatically* in your code at compile time!!! This is just wonderful,
>>>since you end up with code that runs in the background without having done

>And there was a response:

>>That's not even close to preemptive, and it seems very haphazard.  I
>>for one don't like the idea of mysterious things going on in the
>>background when I'm not prepared for it.  Mac memory management
>>makes it necessary for me to know when the machine might shuffle
>>around my data.

>>Good programming doesn't require magical compiler fixes to make things
>>run well.  On the other hand, NO level of programming can turn the Mac
>>into a pre-emptive system.

>Ok. Let's *not* make this a flame war. I just strongly disagree. The way the
>multi-tasking code is added is very controlled, not the least bit "haphazard"
>and you can turn it OFF, globally, or selectively in your code. If there are
>time critical parts of the code, just turn it off there. I'm just a dumb 'ole
>fortran hacker, but this works and it is the neatest thing since sliced
>bread!! Apple should put this into all the other MPW compilers!! ( And Think
>should add it their products!) I *know* that it isn't preemptive; the point
>is that it is USEFUL!!

>Fortran programming is mainly hard core number crunching, and these are often
>non-trivial computational tasks that can run for an hour or more, even on a
>Quadra. It is nice, under those circumstances to have this backgrounding
>capability. I haven't had any trouble with it, and, sheesh, if it works with
>FORTRAN, it outa work with anything!

>Finally, I also got a nice response (sorry, I didn't save it!) from someone
at
>apple who notes that same feature is available in their Lisp. I still don't
>have
>any idea why C and Pascal omit this useful option.

Since that was my reply, I figured I'd answer here.  I agree, I don't
want a flame war, but I still disagree with you. <grin>  I suppose that
in a sheer number crunching language like fortran, it could be
healthy.  I guess it's just that my limited experience in C on the
mac, keeps me busy mostly with interface stuff, where
foreground/background changes are best handled explicitly.

And you may also note that C and Pascal programmers
can allow the processor to schedule other tasks _anytime_ by
calling the toolbox call EventAvail.  So, the C or Pascal programmer
can just throw that in wherever they really want to offer background
activity.  It's not automagic, but it get's the job done.

It's vanilla and chocolate.  I'm glad you've found a feature which
works well for you and I'm sure others find it just as handy, but it
still gives me the heebeejeebees. <smile>

Joe

P.S.  I did not intend to insult your programming abilities, and I
apologize if I had.  I'm no hacker either.  But I still don't consider
the feature a "step towards better computing", although it may make
programming easier.

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Date: 04 May 1993 10:27:08 -0600 (CST)
From: "John A." <ANTOLAK%RADPH6.DECNET@relay.the.net>
Subject: FTP woes (R)

Finally, a question that I know the answer to.

In the last Info-Mac, Allan Hunter wonders about *.z files at the wustl
mirror site, and the many period files at the umich site.

1. The *.z files are unix compressed files. To get uncompressed versions,
just issue the get command and omit the .z at the end. The unix host should
then decode the compression, and send only the *.hqx file.

2. The get command with our ftp allows 2 parameters, a remote filename and
a local filename. I usually copy the whole filename, and then paste it
twice (with a space between the 2 names). If the local name is not valid
(more than one period is not valid with VMS as well), I just use the arrow
keys to get to the appropriate place and backspace over the extra periods.

Hope this helps.                John A.

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Date: Tue, 4 May 93 9:09:49 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: FTP woes: mac.archive.umich.edu and Old wuarchive.wustl.edu

Allan Hunter <AHUNTER@ccvm.sunysb.edu> wrote:
>Time for another embarrassing question!  Make that two of them, in fact!
>
>1.  In the mirros archives of wuarchive.wustl.edu lies a folder called
>    "Old", inside of which a nice array of files exists.  Nearly all of
>    them have been Zipped (I presume?) so that they have a final file-
>    type of ".Z", as in "Wonderul-extension.hqx.Z".  Using plain-jane
>    Kermit through my modem, I'm unable to retrieve any of these files.
>    I get told that the file directory doesn't exist, or something to
>    that effect.  I tried changing to "binary" but it doesn't help.  I
>    have the necessary software to unZip files once I've got them, but
>    that won't help if I can't get them in the first place!

I'm not sure what you are trying to do. Are you connecting to wuarchive
via Kermit? The files are in binary format - NOT MacBinary. Also, the .Z
suffix means that they've been compressed with... 'compress'. Unix-based
utility. Not to worry, MacCompress will take care of them for you, once
you have them on your mac.

>2.  Another archive, mac.archive.umich.edu, specializes in a plentitude
>    of periods.  Whereas other archives tend to put the dot only at the
>    significant spot so as to allow stupid machines like this IBM-VM
>    host to think in terms of filename.filetype, the mac.archive gives
>    files names like "Wonderful.extension.21.035.hqx".  Retrieval at-
>    tempts give rise to the annoying reply that the file of that name
>    does not exist.

Have you tried using the 'mget' command in ftp? That way you can use
wildcards, which may (or may not) solve the problem. Try something like
'mget Wonder*<cr>'. Another possibility (assuming that the VM version of
ftp allows it) is to define a local name for the remote file. On a Unix
box, it goes 'get remotefilename localfilename<cr>'. This way you can
define your local file name to have only one period.

Hope this helps...

		tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 15:01:01 PDT
From: wyattw@tekig1.pen.tek.com (Wyatt A Webb)
Subject: FTP woes:  mac.archive.umich.edu and Old wuarchive.wustl.edu

Quick note:

	The .Z extension tells you that it has been compressed with the
	unix compress command.  You can uncompress it on a unix machine
	to "de-Z it" or there are mac apps available that do the same
	thing.

Good luck!

	-Wyatt

------------------------------

Date: 4 May 93 14:13:06 GMT
From: Brian Joseph Starr <bstarr@bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Subject: Higher resolution on a NEC 3FGx (A)

In digest <9305040634.AA07716@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.EDU>
Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>The answer is yes and no. All Apple video cards (and built-in video in
>IIsi/ci, Quadras, Centrises) use three sense pins to detect the type of
>monitor attached. (Obviously, the type of monitor supported is different
>for different cards or bulit-in videos). The 8*24 card is capable of
>supporting 21" resolution (1152x870) as well as standard 640x480 and
>640x870 resolutions. (The 8*24 card does NOT support the 16" or 19"
>resolution). However, the NEC 3FGx is NOT capable of handling the 21"
>resolution. It can handle the 16" resolution (832x624) but you would need a
>different video card.

Well, I have an LC III and an NEC 3FGx, can I use (832x624) resolution, and,
if
so, how?  So far, the best I can do is 640x480, which seems like over kill on
such a nice, big, clear screen....

Brian

------------------------------

Date: 04 May 1993 08:29:08 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <KROEGER@dornier.de>
Subject: How to mount/unmount partitions over the net ? (Q)

We have three Macs in our office (2 Quadras & 1 Duo) and a IIfx at a remote
location, all connected via Ethernet and all running system 7.1.
We would like to make regular backups from the "office macs" to the IIfx.
So I have installed three password protected partitions (using Norton) on the
IIfx, one for each of the "office macs". Normally these partitions are not
mounted since the backed-up data are confidential.

Questions:
How can I get a partition mounted over the net on an "office mac" just for
the backup?
How do I unmount the partition from the "office mac" after the backup is
completed ?

Seemingly I cannot turn on filesharing for the unmounted partitions over the
net and without filesharing being turned on I cannot mount the partitions...
....am I missing something?

Any ideas?

Hans Kroeger
kroeger@dornier.de
kroeger@foca.dnet.nasa.gov

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 04 May 1993 11:37:26 -0500 (EST)
From: CRENSHAW@urvax.urich.edu
Subject: Hypercard and Picture XCMD

My name is Salonge Crenshaw and I work for the University Computing Department
at the University ofRichmond.  I would like some help on a hypercard stack
that I am creating.  I am using pictures created with the Picture XCMD and my
problem
is in the windows definition.  If I use any window other than the default
selectsuch as dialog, the picture goes away when I click on the card, but it
goes intomy background and takes up memory.  Is there any way that I can use
the dialog
window definition and not have this problem.  I have tried to put a close
picture command within the card script to no avail.  Can I get some help
please.
You can contact me at 804-289-8861
Crenshaw@urvax.urich.edu or Crenshaw@urvax.bitnet

Thanks

Salonge

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 09:19:07 -0600
From: "Earl Misanchuk"  <MISANCHUK@herald.usask.ca>
Subject: Idea for System 7.2 - undo in the desktop (C)

Recently, Ian C McCall <csc345@central1.lancaster.ac.uk> suggested

>I've been thinking about how Undo could be usefully implemented on the
>Finder's desktop, and have come up with the following ideas.

>1.      To undo a dragging action.

..

>2.      To undo the movement of a file

I'd like to second that motion, just in case someone at Apple's listening.
Having accidentally brushed my hand over the mouse a couple of times within
the
past week, thus inadvertently moving an (unknown) file into some (unknown)
folder (it happens so fast!), then having spent many minutes looking for it (I
had to inspect the contents of each folder item by item, because I didn't know
what file I'd moved, so it took a long time). The large button on the new
ergonmic mouse seems to make it easier for these accidents to happen, and an
Undo feature would be *extremely* helpful.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 12:03:53 -0400
From: Jean-Luc Brousseau <Jean-Luc_Brousseau@UQTR.UQuebec.CA>
Subject: Mac Layers and AIX.

Hi all,
     anyone succeded in compilong MacLayers on an IBM?  I'm using an
"AIX Version 3.2.2" running "AIX Version 3.2.2".  Can someone send me

a copy of an altered Mac Layers for AIX or tell me what to change?
Thanks,

	     Jean-Luc
P.S.  Send answer directly to brousso@neptune.uqtr.uquebec.ca

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 3 May 93 23:53:28 PDT
From: Ian Douglas Dickey <idd@orsil.ubc.ca>
Subject: Mac LC III (Q)

Dear Netters,

Now that the LC III has been out for a few months
now, I was wondering what the feed back is.  Is
this machine worth getting over an "Old IIsi",
and does it handle graphics well enough to be
seriously considered for use with a scanner and
manipulating of large files created by said scanner?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.  As this is
perhaps getting into FAQ territory, perhaps anyone kind
enough to reply could do so directly to me and I will
gladly summerize for the net.

Thanks in advance,

Ian D. Dickey
Faculty of Medicine, UBC

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 8:23:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Bruce Goldstein, (818) 354-7366" <BGOLDSTEIN@jplsp2.jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject: MacTCP Gateway not in local zone

Suppose you are trying to use a MacTCP gateway rather than a direct
ethernet-TCPIP connection from your Mac.  In this case you have to choose
whatever flavor of AppleTalk you are using in the MacTCP icon choice area,
and select the zone in which your gateway resides.  Now, here comes the
tricky part.  If your Macintosh is in the same zone as the MacTCP gateway
(in our case a FastPath 4) you can select static addressing if you wish.
If your Mac is in a different zone, YOU MUST SELECT DYNAMIC ADDRESSING, NOT
STATIC ADDRESSING.  This caused us a good bit of grief until we figured it
out, and of course no one provides any documentation worth anything about how
to use MacTCP.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 08:10:57 PDT
From: tlh9d6e@panam2.panam.edu (Terry L. Hartman)
Subject: MacWrite Pro vs. ClarisWorks 2.0 -- ????

Wondering which one to get.  I know ClarisWorks is a integrated package and
all, but I am mainly interested in the WordProcessor part.  Does
ClarisWorks 2.0 use the old MacWrite II as its WordProcessor???

What are your feelings about the above products???

Terry L. Hartman
Coordinator - Microcomputer Services
U.T. - Pan American

tlh9d6e@panam1.panam.edu
terry@bandw.panam.edu
thartman@tenet.edu
pitbull@mindvox.phantom.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 09:55:18 +0200
From: jew@language.ou.dk (J|rn Erik Wennerstr|m)
Subject: More than one dictionary (Word 5.0a)

Dan Wismer  University of Fribourg  - Switzerland, complained in a previous
Info-Mac about Word 5.1 being unable to operate two - or more -
dictionaries at the same time.
I ve detected the same problem with our localized version 5.0a(danish) at
our faculty. However, if I use the  original  english version, there seem
to be no problems concerning multiple dictionaries.
Is this just(!)  a bug or is it some sneaky attempt to lure linguistic
minorities into dropping their mother tongue/wordprocessor by producing
defective localized versions of software!!??

Best,

Joern Wennerstroem

Systems Manager
Faculty of the Humanities
University of Odense
Denmark

------------------------------

Date: 4 May 1993 10:05:24 GMT
From: guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu (Guy Kuo)
Subject: Nautlius CD Magazine - any subscribers out there?

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

> My question: do the Nautilus monthly CDs measure up to this standard of
>quantity, quality and usefulness? Are they worth the money? Please e-mail
>opinions, facts, tales of woe/joy/skepticism etc. If appropriate, I'll post
>a summary. Thanks all...

I've subscribed to Nautilus for about a year and half now. Overall I find it
has been well worth the cost. On almost every Issue I find a few goodies I
would not have had otherwise. It has actually paid for itself by providing
files which
I would have spent a great deal of time obtaining. It's one of the best things
other than InterNet that has happened to my computing pleasures.

Guy Kuo <guykuo@u.washington.edu>

------------------------------

Date: 4 May 1993 14:17:47 -0600
From: "Glockzin Donald" <Glockzin_Donald@macmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com>
Subject: New PP Modem

I noticed that Practical Peripherals has a new modem called PM14400FXMT. The
MT
at the end is the new part and it drops the cost by >$150 from regular FX
version. A sales rep said that case is cheaper and the LEDs are removed. (The
electronics are the important parts IMHO.) It comes with SW and handshake
cable. I have always heard good news about Practical Peripherals and would
like
to know more.

Can anyone that really knows tell me about the real hardware difference to
have
such a cost decrease? If not, I will buy and let others know.

THANKS -- DG
Donald Glockzin
Lead Engineer
Motorola - CIG
glockzin_donald@macmail1.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 14:40:40 -0500
From: vilberg@whale.st.usm.edu (Bill Vilberg)
Subject: NeXT application dock

Robert,

You asked for a NeXT like application dock. I have been playing with WAIS
(wide area information service(?)) so I took your request and sent it out
to info-mac and to umich.edu and found the following:

 --------------------
mac.archive.umich.edu
 --------------------

/mac/util/organization/finderpalette1.0.cpt.hqx
/mac/system.extensions/init/apollo0.8b3/cpt.hqx
/mac/system.extensions/init/blackbox.sit.hqx

 -------
Info-Mac
 -------

/info-mac/util/launch-pad-202.hqx; 57K

I have no idea if any of these still work or even what they do. I _did_
play with blackbox a long time ago and it sounds like just what you want,
but it is so old I doubt that it works with the newest sytems.

 --------------------------------
Old response to similar question:
 --------------------------------
>6/4/92
>Info Mac Digest
>Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
>Info-Mac Digest V10 #136:  Application Dock program wanted (A)

>Date: Thu, 4 Jun 92 00:07:24 PDT
>From: Les.Ferch@mtsg.ubc.ca
>Subject: Application Dock program wanted (A)

...

There is a commercial program that provides an icon dock. Here is
some text on it from an 1991 info-mac digest:

"I like Andrew Welch's QuickTools' "PowerStrip", which is like the
application dock on a NeXT. It lets you install applications' icons
into a floating palette (which can be hidden/shown with a hot key).
You can even attach documents to applications. It's a joy!"

Another older icon dock program that does not seem to be on info-mac
any longer was originally in: info-mac/util/launch-qcb5.hqx

"_Launch is a Multifinder Enhanser. It provides an icon dock so you
can start applications and open files without searching through
multiple folders in the Finder. _Launch is Shareware."

And there are probably more that I have missed...

 -------------------------------

Hope this helps.
* Bill Vilberg, Univ. of So. Miss.  <vilberg@whale.st.usm.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 04 May 93 08:00:56 PST
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: NOW Menus and Word 4.01b conflict

As several people suggeested in mail to me my conflict with NOW Menus
and Word was solved by upgrading NOW Toolbox to 4.01p.  I had gotten
the upgrade weeks ago, but forgot all about it before installing it.
Thanks to all.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 10:57:27 EDT
From: "Michael Gallamore"  <gallamore%g24mac1@relay.nswc.navy.mil>
Subject: Number of Chips on a SIMM

  Well, in trying to stay abreast of which SIMMs work okay in the new Macs,
  and
find out exactly what a "composite" SIMM looks like, I got a little confused.
;)
So, I put together this chart, and I wanted to get your comments/confirmation
on
its contents.

 8 bits  = 1 Byte
 8 Mbits = 1 MByte

therefore it takes:
   # of     chip       SIMM
   chips    size       size
 --------------------------------
    8   x  256 Kbit = 256 KByte
    4   x  512 Kbit = 256 KByte
    8   x  1 Mbit   =  1 MByte
    2   x  4 Mbit   =  1 MByte  (Has anyone made a SIMM this way??)
    8   x  1 Mbit   =  2 MByte
    8   x  4 Mbit   =  4 MByte
   16   x  4 Mbit   =  8 MByte
    8   x  8 Mbit   =  8 MByte  (Is there a 8 Mbit chip??)
   32   x  4 Mbit   = 16 MByte
    8   x 16 Mbit   = 16 MByte
   16   x 16 Mbit   = 32 MByte
    8   x 32 Mbit   = 32 MByte  (Is there a 32 Mbit chip)

  The list is an overview, and by no means exhaustive of all the possible
combinations.  I would really appreciate any comments or corrections.  :)
  I also had a question regarding "composite" SIMMs.  Is a "composite" SIMM
  one
which has more than 8 chips?

Thanks -




Michael Gallamore,  (703)663-8538   NSWCDD
gallamore@g24mac1.nswc.navy.mil  or
gallamore@mv2.nswc.navy.mil

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 12:43:59 BST
From: y.liu@ic.ac.uk
Subject: PICT <--> PCX

I wonder whether it is possible to transfer PC format pictures .PCX to and
>From Mac Pictures?
Can anyone help?

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 20:46:42 GMT
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: PopChar/MacWrite Pro Glitch?

In comp.sys.mac.digest, ED HOLZER <wk02107@worldlink.com> writes:

>PopChar is a favorite of mine so imagine my dismay when I tried it with
>MacWrite Pro and the whole works went into gridlock. This happens repeatedly
>so I must assume a bug of some sort.  Has anyone else had this experience?
>Does anyone have a solution?  Thanks for the help.

I have talked to Guenther about the problem. A new version is in the
works that will fix the bug. MacWrite Pro uses a non-standard menu
structure that is confusing PopChar.

pr
--
resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 08:38:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ephraim Fithian <fithian@acad.csv.kutztown.edu>
Subject: PRAM Zapping

mikeg@endgame.gsfc.nasa.gov writes

>I zapped the PRAM in a Quadra 700 and now when it boots up
>the startup screen is in black and white, not color (note it has an
>8-bit monitor and has been showing hte startup screen in 8 bit color
>till we zapped the PRAM). How do I get it go back to color?

What you need to do after zapping the pram is to go to monitors in the
control panel and turn off color, then turn it back on. Also, switch from
256 colors back to 16 colors and then back again to 256. I'm not quite
sure why this works; it must set a bit that has been unset. It works on a
Q700, IIci, IIsi, IIfx but for some reason not on a IIcx. I have used this
trick with 32-bit cards also. Restart after resetting.

Ephraim Fithian
Kutztown University of PA

------------------------------

Date: Tue,  4 May 93 09:41:33 PDT
From: Kevin Purcell (Rho) <a-kevinp@microsoft.com>
Subject: Qestion about acessing data in handles with THINK C (A)

Jorge:

The problem is your understanding of C: the [] operator adds in an
index to a pointer and removes as level of indirection.

If p is a pointer (or an array, almost the same thing) then

*p gets the item p points to
this is the same as p[0]

to get the next item that p points to you can say:

*(p + 1) or p[1]

To generalise:

*(p + n) or p[n]

get the nth element pointed to by p

When using double indirection:

*h gets the master pointer
**h gets the first byte in the handle

this is the same as

(*h)[0]

so to get the nth byte from the handle use

*(*h + n) or (*h)[n]

Careful with those parentheses -- the [] bind tighter than the * so
they are needed.

The code you wrote **h[4] trys to dereference the handle three times
(once each * and once for []). The compiler knows that the underlying
type is a Byte and not an address. So it refuses to continue compiling
and emits the "Pointer required" error.

Kevin Purcell
a-kevinp@microsoft.com
"We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells"

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 17:30:07 EST
From: Scott Traurig <traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com>
Subject: Recommendations for Shareware Polar Plotting

Could someone please recommend a good share/public/free-ware polar plotting
program?
		Thanks in advance,
				    Scott (traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 15:02:09 -0400
From: Gary Goldberg <og@access.digex.net>
Subject: SCSI Problem Resolved In Draconian Fashion

This is the text of the message I sent to Micheal Gallamore at NSWC
in Dahlgren, VA.

>Greetings. Guess who's in my mailbox as the first SCSI problem respondent?
>You're also the first to suggest a hardware failure. As a result, if only
>by default, you get the brass ring. If you have an address I can mail this
>stuff to, I'll get it right out. I'm including a letter of registration
>transfer, so you can legally sell them and upgrade what's upgradeable.

>So, I never did find out what was wrong - I traded my IIcx in for a Centris
>650, that and three sets of SCSI cables fixed 75% of the problem. I still
>have one drive with a problem. What I figure I'll do is swap the CD and tape
>drives when I need to use their functionality - I don't need both at the
>same time.
>- Gary

Thanks for all the support. I'm still on track to submit a summary of what
I've learned about SCSI chains. - Gary

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 20:55:46 GMT
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Strip Address

In comp.sys.mac.digest, RICHARD LIM <RTL@siva.bris.ac.uk> writes:

>One of the Macsbug errors I see on a sporadic but never-ending basis
>involves StripAddress.  I've had such crashes within everything from
>ResEdit to MacTerminal, and I know others see it in a variety of apps.
>So: what does StripAddress refer to, what causes it and are there any
>workarounds?

StripAddress is not the cause of your crashes. Two things:

1. StripAddress is a very low-level OS routine that is called by lots
of other OS routines and lots of applications. It doesn't even do
anything all that exciting. (It is about 5 lines of assembler code
total). If you are crashing in StripAddress, it is because another
piece of code which has caused the crash has just called StripAddress.
BUT.....

2. Chances are you are not even dieing in StripAddress at all. Macsbug
displays the name of the closet routine it can figure out the name
for. My guess is that you are crashing somewhere in low memory and
just happen to be close enough to StripAddress for Macsbug to report
it as the routine name.

Odds are, when you are crashing this low in memory and in ResEdit and
MacTerminal, you are really encountering a nasty little INIT that is
munging with memory improperly and throwing these programs into the
guts of the machine. Not a whole lot you are going to be able to do
about it.

pr
--
resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 9:04:29 NDT
From: Dave G. Liverman <dgl@zeppo.geosurv.gov.nf.ca>
Subject: Trackballs

I am in the course of preparing an interactive display for a local science
centre, and plan to use a couple of LC II's with colour monitors running
Supercard. We hope to have access to the display by means of a trackball, with
the keyboard not available to the general public. The trackball will be firmly
mounted on the display. My question is whether you people out there have any
reccommendations for a simple (one button is fine) but more importantly
durable trackball.
You are welcome to mail to me direct and I will summarize if there is
sufficient
interest
Thanks in advance
dgl@zeppo.geosurv.gov.nf.ca
Dave Liverman, Newfoundland Geological Survey, St. John's, Newfoundland.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 93 08:11:04 CDT
From: vellek@telesphere.wustl.edu (Mark Vellek)
Subject: Undo for 7.2

In IM V11, #93, Ian McCall states:

>I've been thinking about how Undo could be usefully implemented on the
>Finder's desktop, and have come up with the following ideas.
>
>1.      To undo a dragging action.
>
>Very often I accidentally drag an icon to a new location (on-screen, not
>to a different directory) after having spent ages carefully lining them
>up so my desktop isn't a mess. Clean-up isn't really all that useful for
>this task, because of different name lengths etc.
>
>So, I'd like to be able to undo the move, and I think it's emminently
>possible to keep track of which icon was moved last and to put it back
>again from the Finder's 'File' menu.

Immediately after dragging it to the wrong spot (and perhaps afterwards, I
haven't tried it) just hit Cmd-Y (or select "Put Away" from the finder's
File menu). Put's it back in the original spot. I don't know if this will
work with putting a file in the wrong folder either.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 4 May 1993 13:48:39 -0800
From: slynch@cln.etc.bc.ca
Subject: Uploading Archives (Q)

OK.  I have done my share of downloading files from the SUMEX-AIM archives
and it is about time that I contributed a couple of things that are not
there, that I think should be shared.  SO..... I have a couple of
questions.

[Great, the more the better! -Gordon]

1.  To what address do I send the file and in what format?.  Let me explain
what I normally do and perhaps someone can enlighten me on the process.

[send it to info-mac@sumex-aim]

I generally use Eudora to retreive and send my mail with or without file
attachments, but I am not committed to the client software.  I could use
Zterm or White Knight.

1. Should I compress the file using Compact pro and attach it to a message
and send it to info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
[Yes.]

2. Should I worry about the format of the file and use BinHex on it before
attaching it, or does Eudora do that for me?

3. Do I assume that the body of my message explains what the file/app does
and that the moderator will determine where the file goes and what to call
the .hqx version?
[Suggestions are welcome; we can't always tell from the blurb what the
program is]

How am I doing so far?  Please let me know as there are a couple of things
that I have found out there that would be useful to others, particularly
those in the Education field.

[Great.  See the file posting-guidelines.txt in the info-mac/help
directory for a list of other suggestions.  -Gordon.]

********************
Stewart Lynch, Director of Technology, North Vancouver School District, BC
Canada.

------------------------------

Date: 04 May 1993 17:33:19 +0000
From: tsvetkova@news.rferl.org (Alexei Tsvetkov)
Subject: Wiz Tools (Q)

Dear netters:
	I have recently ftp'd a cp named Wiz Tools Demo from umich where it
resides in misc/demo directory. It is a modular thing that performs most of
the functions I assigned previously to QuicKeys and NowMenus - and much
more, using about 1/8 of the memory.
	It is hardly possible to describe briefly what it actually does. It
has PB tools, file-sharing tools, various finder patches with application
substitution, hierarchical menus, a neat launcher, timed backup / disk
sinchronizing, screen depth adjustment and menu clocks (with chimes) for
various locations.
	The thing does not appear crippled in any way, so I assume it is a
demo in a sense it will expire at some point. This will upset me. However,
the Read Me file gives no indication of the price or registration
procedure. The cp itself contains the names of the authors and tech support
phones, one in Canada and one in Belgium. No logo of any kind, which
suggests it is a sort of shareware.
	Before attempting international phone calls I would like to inquire
if anybody has already used or purchased it, what is the price (after all,
I already own the QuicKeys and Now Utilities) and who wants to be paid.
	BTW, if there is interest, I could mail it to sumex, since there is
nothing in the instructions restricting the distribution.
	Thanks.

Alexei Tsvetkov
Munich

------------------------------

Date: Tue,  4 May 1993 17:16:47 +0100
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: World Map needed...

This time, MacNetLand, I'm looking for a quasi-three dimensional picture of
the earth (with mountains and oceans, etc.).  Something like the color map DA
>From Apple but in Pict format (so that I can scale it).  I'm interested in
any
PD OR commercial art work (I need it for a sticker, in case anyone's
curious).


MUCH thanks in advance,
Elliot Bennett
DLR, Cologne, Germany
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de

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